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Post by dm1scotty on Jan 3, 2013 10:46:16 GMT -5
Here is a comment I received on YouTube:
Great one again, but I wish the videos were more concise. You could edit this into a 30 second clip since the idea is so simple. I ended up skipping through most of the video. Maybe combine tiny props into one video?
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Post by dm1scotty on Jan 3, 2013 10:59:04 GMT -5
Wow...30 seconds that's a really short vid for a "how to". I try to strike a balance between getting my idea across and the careful execution of it. I also like to give tips and tricks while executing the craft so it will save the crafter time and money. I also like to give suggestions about use of the craft at the end of the vid to highlight the possibilities of the finished product.
I am an artist and not a prop factory. making these vids is time consuming and entails quite a bit of setup as well as editing, uploading time. I do this because I want to share the ease and joy of crafting not just the end result. I find that many people enjoy seeing me demonstrate the techniques. The great thing about having the video online is that if you find my demonstrations are taking too long you can always zoom ahead but I am not going to cut it too short because others may need more time to process the demonstration.
...In short...I will never have a 30 second vid.
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Post by danielc on Jan 3, 2013 12:49:31 GMT -5
As you gain more and more viewers you will have to learn to look at comments like this in context to the complete volume of comments you receive. The more comments you get the greater the chance someone will make some king of comment that does not fit with the bulk of the feedback you receive.
If you get 30 comments and 15 or 20 say the vid was too long then there maybe something there. But if you get 30 comments and 29 say "loved the vid" and one says "good but too long" you then need to ignore the one.
So make the vids for you and the fan base and do not over think the outlier viewers.
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Post by madladdesigns on Jan 3, 2013 14:50:04 GMT -5
Not in the slightest, in fact I like the way you take time to explain things instead of.. "glue this to that, paint it, drybrush it... and you're done."
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Post by Efilion on Jan 3, 2013 16:46:32 GMT -5
Completly agree with madladdesigns... just dont listen to those who dont care abount the proces cuz u always can learn somethiing or get a new ideas out of it!! Keep the great work man ^_^
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Post by matakishi on Jan 3, 2013 19:17:20 GMT -5
Sometimes you might go on a bit However, showing the whole process of painting or assembling something has the benefit of also showing how little time it takes to actually do and for some people that's the spur they need to try it. I only occasionally skip forward to get to new stuff (I know how to glue and paint). The ideas are the thing. Discussing the whys and wherefores is also important. Keep doing it your way until people complain in numbers or start switching off.
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Post by hideousprime on Jan 3, 2013 20:01:56 GMT -5
Keep doing it your way no matter what! People are searching for something, you r providing. In short,They r not paying you to teach them how to craft. If they want to fast forward they will just lose out on your insight, there loss.
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Post by unclebilly on Jan 3, 2013 22:12:14 GMT -5
Stick to the way you are doing them. If people what them shorter they are more than welcome to make there own vids. I always enjoy your vids and look forward to the next one each time.
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Post by onethatwas on Jan 3, 2013 23:13:16 GMT -5
In my opinion you're not long enough Well, at least, compared to me. I truly can go on and on and on (and on and on). There are times when I, personally, would approeciate elaboration, but I actually am perfectly fine with things the way they are. However, I have found that online communities dislike anything that lasts longer than a minute. Not sure why, but that seems to be the trend. I could be wrong here, but alot of places I post at compalin about my lengthy "wall of text" posts, and my answer is "Excuse me, but this is a discussion forum, and I happen to have alot to discuss." Similarly, I say you should embrace a similar view: Youtube offers the chance to share something with the world, and you have alot to share! So, tell them that you're sorry that your videos aren't Gangnum Style (WHY IS THIS POPULAR!!!!) but you have something you want to give to the world wide community. Enjoy.
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steel
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Post by steel on Jan 4, 2013 2:12:25 GMT -5
I like your videos when they are 30 minutes long, it gives me just enough time to watch your work at hand while giving me time to think on my own. i'm afraid that if you fast forwarded your process, i'd miss out on my thinking time because i'd miss something important. Being long winded to this current degree i feel is just right since we can brainstorm within watching but not be bored.
Besides, if your bored watching youtube, go to twitter
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argiope
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Post by argiope on Jan 4, 2013 9:21:22 GMT -5
I have to agree with everyone on ignoring the naysayer's comment. Although you may think you are rambling, and sometimes maybe, but most of the time as you talk you are dribbling out little gems of advice on building and DMing. A quick skim through the video it looks visually like you are just gluing pieces of cardboard together in an obvious way but it is in the audio portion where other “learnin” is happening. For example I listened to your Happy New year video and it was like meeting up with an old friend, just listening to you talking about crafting, gaming and such. Just when I thought it was more of a friendly chat and I was beginning to daydream you gave some great advice on how to deploy the tiles while playing! Boom, I hadn’t actually considered HOW I was going to use the tiles during game play and your advice was counter to how I was thinking of using the tiles so it was great advice. So do what you do naturally and only listen to us when we request you to build something
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Post by dm1scotty on Jan 4, 2013 11:30:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments everyone. I understand that sometimes I will have naysayers but occasionally there can be a grain of truth to them.
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Post by danielc on Jan 4, 2013 15:22:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments everyone. I understand that sometimes I will have naysayers but occasionally there can be a grain of truth to them. And there is the key. Take what you need from the comment and ignore the rest. Use good feedback to become better but pass on the negative.
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Post by m3talslime on Jan 9, 2013 16:33:18 GMT -5
I personally have noticed that you skip things that have already been taught in previous videos frequently as of late, and pointing out that fact is important. Possibly reference the number of the video that you showed a certain technique if you are skipping it (I say this because your library is becoming large).
For those of us who enjoy a nice 15-25 minute video, we are getting exactly what we want.
For those that want shorter videos... guess how long a a couple of mouse clicks to discern the point in the video you wish to be at takes? Win - Win
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griffonwing
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Post by griffonwing on Jan 9, 2013 18:40:08 GMT -5
I personally have noticed that you skip things that have already been taught in previous videos frequently as of late, and pointing out that fact is important. Possibly reference the number of the video that you showed a certain technique if you are skipping it .... Even better. At the point where you mention the previous video detailing the technique, post an annotative link so all the user has to do is click and open that video in a new window.
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dmnate
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Post by dmnate on Jan 9, 2013 19:39:13 GMT -5
You can't do a "how to" that quick. If you could, then your audience didn't need the video, and just wanted to see the finished product. That's what the skip ability is for. The demonstration of technique is what the videos are about, not a brief explanation saying "you make it out of cardboard, and glue it together". I thoroughly enjoy your videos and would be very sad if they became shorter. I often find myself wishing i could watch you do things in even more detail. It's very inspiring to watch you work.
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Post by thrilkillx on Jan 14, 2013 23:35:09 GMT -5
You do have a tendancy to ramble on a little bit in the first 1/4 of your videos. Your crafting and gaming ideas are innovative and game changing, but your video editing may not be.
You'll discover how to be concise and innovative with practice the more videos you end up doing.
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slurpy
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Post by slurpy on Jan 16, 2013 2:19:12 GMT -5
I'm one of those people that think on occasion the videos are a bit too long - mostly from things like watching you cut cardboard. Pretty sure I am capable of that on my own. But I am also of the opinion that it works great for people working along with you in the vid (as opposed to someone like me, who watches your videos while at work), and on the rare occasion when I DO get bored (twice, I believe, in the 50 or so vids I have watched so far), I just skip ahead a minute or so - no big deal.
So no, don't worry about changing anything. Unless it's to stop clicking your tongue against your teeth. Mostly because I used to do it, too, and had to work really hard to stop after criticisms about some presentations I gave at work a few years ago. Oddly enough, the "ums" that other people have mentioned don't bother me in the slightest.
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Post by hasbinbad on Jan 24, 2013 3:44:33 GMT -5
Scotty, I personally like to smoke a big fatty and listen to you talk. I've told you before that you're the Bob Ross of D&D, and it's mostly for that reason. Ask yourself: Would you cut Bob off to a 30 second clip? HELL NO. Are SOME people annoyed at Bob? Sure. Those people are bads in my opinion.
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Post by hasbinbad on Jan 24, 2013 3:45:36 GMT -5
the tongue clicking .. is kind of a thing tho
You could work on that, but .. as to length .. longer imho.
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spider
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Post by spider on Feb 24, 2013 22:13:36 GMT -5
Keep the videos as they are. I prefer to have a detailed explanation and talk. In todays attention deficit world, too many require a a 30-second clip. Everything from their daily news reports to how to make cool RPG crafts must be distilled into 30-second clips. Well, anything worth pursuing takes time. Besides, if anyone is in a hurry, they can scrub the video forward. Thanks for all your work!
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Post by dm1scotty on Feb 24, 2013 22:45:02 GMT -5
Very welcome Spider.
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Post by chrisfitz71 on Feb 25, 2013 5:14:15 GMT -5
I suggest you leave out references to when you're posting. After you've posted, that info is irrelevant. The content should be timeless, like your methods.
Other than that please just continue to be yourself. You are natural on camera, and that is a quality that can only be harmed by over-thinking what you should and shouldn't say.
Your videos are great. Carry on. Your legions will grow. Falter not.
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griffonwing
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Post by griffonwing on Feb 27, 2013 3:44:03 GMT -5
..so sayeth the chrisfitz71. Amen.
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Post by dm1scotty on Feb 27, 2013 12:32:58 GMT -5
Noted
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Post by m3talslime on Mar 2, 2013 13:36:13 GMT -5
I like watching your painting techniques. I don't care if I have seen it used in previous videos. The craftsman in me is very entertained by the whole process, not just parts of it.
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spiralbound
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Post by spiralbound on Mar 2, 2013 19:08:16 GMT -5
I like watching your painting techniques. I don't care if I have seen it used in previous videos. The craftsman in me is very entertained by the whole process, not just parts of it. I too enjoy watching the painting techniques, although I can understand your not wanting to include the same technique again and again (like the yellow-orange-red fire technique). Perhaps though, when you skip a particular technique you could mention where to see it for the benefit of those who haven't seen that particular episode. I've watched every video several times, but newer fans may be joining in on newer videos and not know which of your older videos have specific techniques for different visual effects. For example, you could say, "I won't show you how to paint the flames in this video. I covered this in detail in episode one of my Spellcraft vids where I crafted a Flaming Sphere spell. If you want to see the painting method for flames watch that video instead."
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dmbenjamin
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Post by dmbenjamin on Mar 5, 2013 16:08:13 GMT -5
if you are to long winded then the viewers can just skip the part....
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Post by twistedmage on Mar 8, 2013 19:08:16 GMT -5
not in the least. I spent several hrs looking for what ur showing for free. I've tried using styrofoam to no avail just a huge mess. In my opinion the more detailed the better keep the videoes the way they are
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Post by Wyrmfoe on Mar 8, 2013 21:18:25 GMT -5
The problem with being concise is sometimes it causes people to skip explaining a step that seems obvious or banal. I'd rather have more information than less.
Also, there are going to be people who are impatient and want everythign faster, but sometimes when you try to get out too much information too fast things get lost. I, for one, appreciate the time you invest in your videos.
Just remember, haters gonna hate.
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