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Post by everking on Feb 6, 2013 14:00:53 GMT -5
I just watched the video for the piazo face cards. It is something I myself and my group's main DM have started using. Sort of... We create our own cards. I work at a print shop and am able to print these out in high quality on great paper for little cost. I wanted to share with you all what I've made and what I've used. SAMPLE: Back of the cardsTome of Battle maneuver cardMonster/Player cardI use a program called Magic Set Editor. It's a freeware program. I use it for magic items, monsters, players and consumables. It's really handy to keep track of potions, scrolls, alchemical items, goodberries, etc... I used InDesign to create a template. I'm able to print multiples on a page and the back lines up perfect. I get 85% of the images from the wizards art & map archive. We also use them for initiative tracking. I put the initiative bonus down in the lower right corner. That helps with not having to look it up and to help with ties. I made them the same size as normal CCG cards/sport cards. That way players can use the clear plastic 9up card sheets to store their cards with their character sheets.
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Post by dm1scotty on Feb 6, 2013 14:27:07 GMT -5
those are fantastic everking...DM Scotty needs to use mind control on you to start crafting me cards I need =)
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Post by madladdesigns on Feb 6, 2013 14:29:21 GMT -5
Thanks for this everking, I've also created my own cards but not the way you have, which seems better, so thanks again, I'll have to give these a try.
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Post by danielc on Feb 6, 2013 14:58:47 GMT -5
As for using "faces" for NPC identification, we have used 3x5 cards for years with faces glued to one side. The faces could come from anywhere. Magazines, internet, etc. One of my favorite finds was a stack of two boxes full of old National Geographics from the 50's through the 90's. We must have cut out 100's of pictures that week. I would suggest that you need not wait for Paizo to put out face decks to have tons of NPC faces. ;-)
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Post by everking on Feb 6, 2013 17:58:07 GMT -5
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Post by unclebilly on Feb 6, 2013 18:33:01 GMT -5
Great looking cards !!!
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Post by nubaumpalemoon on Feb 8, 2013 12:46:10 GMT -5
These cards are outstanding. I am just curious a to what the +7 and +3 represeent on the monster/player cards.
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Post by everking on Feb 8, 2013 21:42:09 GMT -5
Those numbers represent the initiative modifier of the creature. It helps when rolling for initiative and breaking ties. I don't have ot look down on my monster stat sheet to get things rolling in combat.
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Post by nubaumpalemoon on Feb 9, 2013 18:40:25 GMT -5
Those numbers represent the initiative modifier of the creature. It helps when rolling for initiative and breaking ties. I don't have ot look down on my monster stat sheet to get things rolling in combat. Good idea. Thanks for the explanation and the inspiration!
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Post by hideousprime on Feb 10, 2013 2:11:10 GMT -5
Very Cool
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Post by dmnath on Feb 10, 2013 4:02:24 GMT -5
I too used the paizo face cards for a long time. After spending close to 160 dollars i found the magic deck editor as well. But i havnt used it as extensivly as yourself. I recently dropped a few items via cards for my players but unfortunatly my printer ran out of ink and payday isnt for two more weeks (darn bills). Im curious about the minotaur rush card though. Is that a players ability or a special manuever you concocted for someone?
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Post by griffonwing on Feb 10, 2013 4:05:22 GMT -5
I think my only problem with Paizo's products, and 3e/4e, is that the whole artwork is too..over-the-top. It's not old-school fantasy. It's new-modern-angular-buckles-pointy-sharp, inspired from anime/manga artwork that actually takes me OUT of the fantasy world. I have looked through some decks at the local game store but even the really tame artwork is way too off kilter.
The idea: Love it! However, I will simply have to do what Ive always done, and surf through deviantart and other sites for images/faces with which to put to my NPCs.
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Post by everking on Feb 10, 2013 17:17:59 GMT -5
Im curious about the minotaur rush card though. Is that a players ability or a special manuever you concocted for someone? That is a manuever from the Tomb of Battle book. I made cards for a player who was playing a crusader. I put in the corner of each card a code to represent the action it required to use the manuever. 1FRA = 1 full-round action
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Post by everking on Feb 10, 2013 17:23:48 GMT -5
I think my only problem with Paizo's products, and 3e/4e, is that the whole artwork is too..over-the-top. It's not old-school fantasy. It's new-modern-angular-buckles-pointy-sharp, inspired from anime/manga artwork that actually takes me OUT of the fantasy world. I have looked through some decks at the local game store but even the really tame artwork is way too off kilter. The idea: Love it! However, I will simply have to do what Ive always done, and surf through deviantart and other sites for images/faces with which to put to my NPCs. The DM I play for is the exact same way. Here are some of the cards he put together. They are more your style I'd guess. (deviantart is his main sorce for images, but he does use real pictures too) NPC1NPC2NPC3NPC4
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Post by griffonwing on Feb 10, 2013 17:53:21 GMT -5
The DM I play for is the exact same way. Here are some of the cards he put together. They are more your style I'd guess. (deviantart is his main sorce for images, but he does use real pictures too) NPC1NPC2NPC3NPC4Thanks. Yes, 2 of those are quite well, Orsten and Electra, although I would probably put Electra through Photoshop to be more artwork than photo. One of the things that I want to do is to build up a file-o-fax system, with profession dividers. Barkeeps, Tavern Wenches, Mayors, Armorsmith, Weaponsmith, Blacksmith, Cooper, Apothecrist, Clerics, Guild Leaders, High Mages, Bards, Guard Captains, Dignitaries, and more, about half a dozen of each. Simply reach for one when they come in contact with an NPC, and that is the person. Already have all of the information marked up on the back so there is no down-time for creating.
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Post by spiralbound on Feb 10, 2013 19:28:40 GMT -5
For people who want to make cards like this, but wish to avoid copyright issues, there is another card making program available which doesn't DIRECTLY recreate Magic card layouts. It is a free program called nanDECK (www.nandeck.com) which uses a simple scripting code to define the layout and appearance of your cards, then references another file with the text and links to images for your cards. The program then runs through the two files, grabs the text and images, applies them to the card layout and spits out a pdf of sheets of cards. Using a program like this would allow you to design your own card layouts which aren't copyright violations of MtG cards. You would still need to supply images which don't violate any copyrights, but I'd hope that part was obvious. :-)
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Post by nubaumpalemoon on Feb 11, 2013 12:35:04 GMT -5
For people who want to make cards like this, but wish to avoid copyright issues, there is another card making program available which doesn't DIRECTLY recreate Magic card layouts. It is a free program called nanDECK (www.nandeck.com) which uses a simple scripting code to define the layout and appearance of your cards, then references another file with the text and links to images for your cards. The program then runs through the two files, grabs the text and images, applies them to the card layout and spits out a pdf of sheets of cards. Using a program like this would allow you to design your own card layouts which aren't copyright violations of MtG cards. You would still need to supply images which don't violate any copyrights, but I'd hope that part was obvious. :-) It has been a long, long time since my Business Law courses in college but I would have thought that if you were producing these cards for your own use that you wouldn't be breaking any copyright laws. I mean, if you were trying to put something like this together to resell then I could see a clear violation. Maybe someone who is a little more versed on copyright law, or law in general might be able to provide some clarification.
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Post by onethatwas on Feb 11, 2013 16:29:23 GMT -5
having had no background in law, business law, or otherwise <end disclaimer>, That sounds about right. Most times Copyright doesn't get infringed when you are just using something for personal, non-retail use. However, there can and have been instances where this has come up even when there was no attempt to sell a product that was originally produced....very importantly in situations where plagiarism is done. You don't have to sell another's works...just try to pass it off as your own.
Of course there may be some distinction between plagiarism and copyrighting that I am not seeing. It seems they could be bonded together like two cardboard pieces attached with hot glue. But then again they may be so different that it would be like attaching cardboard to the inside of a pail of water with hot glue.
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Post by everking on Feb 12, 2013 8:56:18 GMT -5
Working in a copy/print shop I dealt with copyright almost every day. The item you are wanting to reproduce will usually have it printed clearly what you can or can't do. A book will say "Premission is granted for personal use only" or "this material may not be copied or reproduced in any way without written consent of the owner". We've had many companies do sting operations where they'll have secret shoppers come in and try to get things reproduced. If you fail you will quickly know it. It is no joke, and can be VERY expensive if you mess with the wrong company. Photo places are some of the worst. Olan Mills being one of the worst. They'll hunt you down.
In general most places will gladly give you written permission if you ask and it's for personal use only.
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Post by spiralbound on Feb 13, 2013 20:20:41 GMT -5
I would agree, in most cases making cards for personal use avoids any concerns re: copyright issues. TECHNICALLY, a company which expressly forbade "unauthorized copying" could still object, but they'd have to know about it first, and unless they're in your campaign, they won't! I only mentioned avoiding copyright because the original poster mentioned his friends had suggested he sell his cards, but that he believed (correctly) doing so would transgress copyright laws. I don't know if the OP has any desire to sell a non-copyrighted version of his cards, but IF HE DOES, then the advice in my first post could be construed as being of some use to him...
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