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Post by hideousprime on Jan 13, 2013 5:40:56 GMT -5
I am about to start flocking some of the bases on my mage knight mini's. I have decided not to rebase them due to time and the fact if I'm going gridless whats the point if I'm flocking them anyway! For those that have flocked, Do you find that it is plain enough to use on any terrain or does it look wierd? Or does anyone flock them with a specific terrain in mind for the type of monster or pc?
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Post by traxzwolf on Jan 13, 2013 14:22:57 GMT -5
Lol I'm Still trying to figure out how I want to do/make bases. Some choices are cardboard, buy them (Nah), Dowl Rod, Plywood, Washers.....Any suggestions? Better yet any pictures on how the rest of you do bases and flocking?
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Post by danielc on Jan 13, 2013 14:59:05 GMT -5
Once I passed my second thousand figures I realized I would never, ever have the time and money to make them standard bases. So I follow some basic rules and leave it at that.
1) If they are an army for a game I make sure the army is standard for that army. ---Example: My Epic Guard and my Epic Space Marines do not match but the Guard all match each other. 2) If they are already based I leave them alone. ---Example: A friend gave me a very nicely painted Iron Golum with a woodland base. I left it alone. 3) Spend time and effort on the figures that will spend a lot of time on the table and ignore those who may never make it to the table. ---Example: My peronal PC that played in a weekly game for two years was done up real nice, but my d&d colossal red dragon is still standing on his plain black base.
As for the question of flock matching the battlefield: I say flock them as you want them to look and not to worry about the battlefield. Too many battlefields to match them all. For example, I own a simple green table cover that I use when I play Epic. Put it down and add some buildings hills etc. My friend has a grey cloth and he bought GW ruins etc. No one has ever said my armies looked bad because of their bases not matching the battleground. But they have given me a hard time when my bases were unpainted/flocked. ;-)
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Post by vipertek247 on Jan 13, 2013 18:00:51 GMT -5
I flock all my minis, and rebase them if needed. I got a whole case of Industrial 25mm bases off ebay, and just sanded the molded terrain off. Not as hard as you may think. As a bonus, having the surface sanded allows the glue to hold better.
My hero characters are usually flocked with a mix of dirt and grass. As far as monsters go, I try to flock them accordingly to what settings they'll mostly be used in. I know most people find the flocking of bases to be too time consuming, but I like crafting the smaller details. I get more enjoyment out of building a book shelve or keg, more so than constructing an entire dungeon. But that's just me.
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Post by unclebilly on Jan 13, 2013 20:15:31 GMT -5
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Post by dm1scotty on Jan 13, 2013 20:30:29 GMT -5
I use Elmer's glue all to flock. I fill the top of the base in with the glue using a toothpick to get the glue in tight spaces. I then just put the mini on a paper plate and cover the mini base with construction sand. Most figs I just paint the base a earth brown and then I paint the larger pebbles grey to simulate rocks. This works great for most of my Minis. If a mini has a very specific environment I may paint the base to match that environment.
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Post by omegadm0357 on Jan 21, 2013 10:57:13 GMT -5
Use wooden rounds from Hobby lobby. Plain wood, very sturdy. Paint black or flock or use any method. They come in different sizes for around $1.47 per 10 pack.
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Post by dm1scotty on Jan 22, 2013 14:03:08 GMT -5
Flocking is really a personal choice. Some people collect figs and want to keep them in their natural state. I think the plain bases really detract from the presentation of the fig (like serving a delicious looking meal on a toilet seat...lol)
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Post by hideousprime on Jan 22, 2013 14:40:19 GMT -5
Well there has been talk of rebasing mage knight figs, but if we are gridless is it too distracting to paint or flock MK bases instead of changing them to fit D&D style.
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Post by unclebilly on Jan 22, 2013 19:01:47 GMT -5
I rebase all my mageknight minis. Just becasue I don't like the look of the base they are on.
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Post by dm1scotty on Jan 22, 2013 19:57:56 GMT -5
I hate those giant Mage Knight Bases but it is a bit of work removing them and re-basing them.
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Post by danielc on Jan 22, 2013 20:51:40 GMT -5
Well there has been talk of rebasing mage knight figs, but if we are gridless is it too distracting to paint or flock MK bases instead of changing them to fit D&D style. I agree that at first look there seems to be no reason to do it. But for me, two issues: 1) I dislike that the bases are all the same size and I can not show a "large" monster from a "small" one. When I rebase, I base them on the size base I want to figure to be. 2) I also admit I dislike how much taller they are then any other base I use. I hate the "standing on a stage" feel. But that is just why I do it.
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Post by hideousprime on Jan 22, 2013 23:01:46 GMT -5
Good points thanks guys!
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Post by skunkape on Jan 23, 2013 10:49:18 GMT -5
I flock my bases, but don't always use just a grass for them. Sometimes I use brown for dirt, small rocks, etc and don't worry about how it will look on the table. Course this is after I have painted the base too.
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Post by kingofdaveness on Jan 28, 2013 20:10:59 GMT -5
I rebase all my minis -including the dnd plastics onto round MDF laser cut bases and poker chips from the dollar store. I use s mix of 2mm and 3mm bases to even up mixed scales a little. you can get a huge bag cheaply. I texture the top by painting on acrylic texture medium mixed with a couple of different grits. the nice thing about this is it dries clear so if you spatter your mini you dont notice- it wipes off with water and you dont get sand everywhere. I use 30mm bases for regular models as they are much more stable than inch bases, are easy to pick up by the base (important for pizza/cheetos fingers) and fit the longer stances and weapon protrusions you find on many modern metal figures such as reaper. I use a fat sharpy to paint the edges. I dont bother pinning minis to the base, just use a really good quality slow thick gel superglue on the feet and kicker on the base. you can pre-texure a big batch of bases ready for later, then carve away the bits where the feet go in a few seconds. I used washers but they chip too easily and added far too much weight to my DM carry case and the weight of washer meant fragile minis took more damage when dropped. mdf is light and looks like the DnD mini bases when sanded and painted. I find click bases too distracting.
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Post by nubaumpalemoon on Feb 11, 2013 12:47:32 GMT -5
I use Elmer's glue all to flock. I fill the top of the base in with the glue using a toothpick to get the glue in tight spaces. I then just put the mini on a paper plate and cover the mini base with construction sand. Most figs I just paint the base a earth brown and then I paint the larger pebbles grey to simulate rocks. This works great for most of my Minis. If a mini has a very specific environment I may paint the base to match that environment. I think you might be from Canada but do they sell construction sand at the large home builder stores (Lowes and Home Deport down here in the states)? If so, I certainly wouldn't want to grab a 50lb bag of the stuff as it would last for about 5,000 years.
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Post by hideousprime on Feb 12, 2013 9:15:16 GMT -5
The sands of time.....As sands in the hour glass so are the days of our camapigns...ok enough
Yeah I got $10 lowes card for christmas need to pick up that bag!
I posted pics of some bases i'm using I haven't tested out the flocking yet.
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Post by dm1scotty on Feb 12, 2013 9:41:18 GMT -5
Go forth and flock hideousprime...so sayeth the Scotty
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Post by hideousprime on Feb 12, 2013 10:24:49 GMT -5
Indeed sir, Indeed!
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Post by unclebilly on Feb 12, 2013 18:25:11 GMT -5
I got my sand for free. I just went to the side of the street and got some sand there had little rock in it and everything. Just don't get hit by a car
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Post by chrisfitz71 on Feb 18, 2013 12:51:04 GMT -5
I understand adding flocking to most monsters, e.g. the way DM Scotty flocked that alligator. You know the type of environment this creature will be in.
I don't understand flocking adventurer minis. This warrior is going to be in forests, in mountains, in mines, in inns, in courts, on ships, etc. Unless his name is 'Pigpen' I don't see how any one flocking theme suits the figure's various environs. The same would go for a figure used for summoned creatures.
Does anyone use clear, flockless bases? Or do you handle versatility another way?
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Post by danielc on Feb 18, 2013 13:33:15 GMT -5
Does anyone use clear, flockless bases? Or do you handle versatility another way? I handle the various flocking by just saying "I don't care". I have bought painted and finished minis, PPMs, Raw Metal I painted, amoung others. The range of finish goes from the black bases of the PPMs to bases just painted brown (1980's) to sand (1990s) to small static grass. And when you add in the Painted metal I have bought from folks the colors range from almot white (snow) to super dark brown with tan static grass. As I own so many I am not about to try and make all my bases match. So I just realized, like so many other things on the table, the mini is just a place holder and the real image is in my mind.
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Post by skunkape on Feb 21, 2013 11:37:44 GMT -5
I got my sand for free. I just went to the side of the street and got some sand there had little rock in it and everything. Just don't get hit by a car There is another problem besides cars when you get sand from the side of the street. You need to sterilize it cuz it could have various things it in that you really don't want! ;D
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Post by dmbenjamin on Feb 21, 2013 20:25:43 GMT -5
I got my sand for free. I just went to the side of the street and got some sand there had little rock in it and everything. Just don't get hit by a car right in the dm's craft spirit-saving all the gold pieces
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Post by clanoneillguy on May 28, 2013 9:36:28 GMT -5
Does anyone have a picture of a flocked Mage Knight or Hero/Horrorclix mini? I'm probably going to continue to rebase all of mine but if someone found a way to make them look alright, I may spend my time on other stuff.
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Post by danielc on May 29, 2013 0:35:47 GMT -5
Does anyone have a picture of a flocked Mage Knight or Hero/Horrorclix mini? I'm probably going to continue to rebase all of mine but if someone found a way to make them look alright, I may spend my time on other stuff. Here is one I thought didn't look too bad.
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Post by nubaumpalemoon on May 29, 2013 12:23:17 GMT -5
On a flocking related note, I just whipped up a bunch of home made flock this weekend using paint, saw dust and a strainer. The small cups will be used for fall foliage and the 3 bigger tubs are different shades of grass. The darkest grass has already been dried and processed through the strainer. The other flocks still need to be spread out and dried before being processed. I will post some pictures of some of the minis whenever the flock has been applied.
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Post by althalusredeemed on May 29, 2013 12:56:12 GMT -5
I can't wait!
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Post by unclebilly on May 30, 2013 6:34:54 GMT -5
home made flock is always a great way to go.
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Post by slurpy on May 30, 2013 21:52:11 GMT -5
I love flocking in my home.
/ducks
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