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Post by agsupernaturalfe on Oct 4, 2013 11:59:03 GMT -5
I don't know about about anybody else, but that video was so freaking awesome I can't put it into words. I can't believe I was stupidity gonna buy a dinky l'il purple worm from Reaper minis or toad & troll or some such. Thank God DMScotty came along with this video & the long run time was not only in-depth, fun, & informative, but it made me feel like I was watching one of my favorite movies or series ... Which I guess I was. Anyway now I know how I'm going to spend my weekend. How about you guys? Any thoughts on what I think is the best video to date, or do you have another favorite video in mind?
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Post by dmbrad on Oct 4, 2013 12:07:45 GMT -5
Went and got the clay stuff right after I finished the video.
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Post by dm1scotty on Oct 4, 2013 12:15:21 GMT -5
Glad you guys enjoyed the vid. I've always hated the lil' dinky Purple Worms. Anything cast near the size I made would be hundreds of dollars.
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Post by agsupernaturalfe on Oct 4, 2013 12:21:43 GMT -5
You're right heck the small ones are even about $13 give or take. I'd much rather put some effort into household items & my glue gun to have something this giant & cool. Thanks again DMScotty.
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Post by monkeywithtacos on Oct 4, 2013 14:48:40 GMT -5
That was a very impressive video DMScotty. I love and appreciate how you went into detail on your painting techniques, Hope that many aspiring painters can watch and see how easy it is to get really good results and not be intimidated.
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Post by ashrothedm on Oct 4, 2013 15:03:14 GMT -5
I have to agree, this may be the best miniature video to date. I feel like there should be crafting categories, so for minis, #1.
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Post by thefiend on Oct 4, 2013 18:52:23 GMT -5
That wasn't a mini. That was a biggie! I will say that I dig on the creature creation vids a lot (i.e. the black tentacles, the psuedopods, and the Purple Worm).
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Post by kthulu on Oct 4, 2013 22:15:11 GMT -5
Definitely~ very cool...
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Post by AJ on Oct 5, 2013 10:25:39 GMT -5
Sometimes I ponder the question of miniature crafts, paper crafts, 3D and 2.5D terrain crafts.. but its all DM Crafting, it would be silly to talk about dungeon tiles and not the creatures that go with it, or the furnishings and other game props, whatever they may be.
As for Purple worms.. I have the big Wizards version, the small Reaper version.. but yeah, they get bigger. This is a creature that can, and will, swallow your character whole, and can go fang to fang with an adult red dragon.. can you imagine those two behemoths going at it, to the death, in the middle of a crowded city?
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Post by northtroll on Oct 5, 2013 13:18:32 GMT -5
Maybe macroture is a better word! Awesome video, now I need a few more toilet paper tubes....
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Post by tauster on Oct 5, 2013 14:26:41 GMT -5
I watched the turorial yesterday night and started crafting this noon. Definitely my favourite scottitorial ever!  I'll try(!) to make the worm mini(?)ature a dice tower, so I have to adapt Scottie's technique a bit. It is more difficult because I can not stuff the rolls with anything, so stability has to come from an outside structure, all the while the interior with all it's bends and curves has to be large enough to let the dice through. After three failed prototypes, I hope that the current one comes out workable. The good thing is that as a dice tower instead of 'only' a miniature, I can have this critter in front of me at every game session instead of using it only rarely (how often do you fight purple worms?). Lessons I learned so far: 1) To avoid the thing getting top-heavy, fill the bottom end with small pebbles mortared together with hotglue. 2) If you glue the lower end into a properly sized twist-off cap, you can put it later on to a variety of magnetic (neodym!) bases with different geographic themes. You can make an underdark base, one for deserts, one for grassland, one with exploding pavement (dungeons & cities), etc... 3) If the worm is to be looking downward at its prey and you intend to throw the dice through it's maw, you'd have to throw the dice upward. Combined with the small maw opening, this is not very practical. However, if the worm looks upward, you may have it easier with the dice, but the worm would be looking away from it's prey. There is no real solution to this, so you'll have to strike a balance between both. Ideally, you can cover it somehow visually, i.e. sculpt the maw so that although you'll throw the dice in horizontally, the head appears to be looking downward. I'm not sure get this right, but this is my first worm after all. The alternative is a kind of 'trapdoor' at the top (i.e. the critter's neck), which most probably would look silly, unless you are a true camouflage artist with hotglue texture and painting techniques. Which I'm probably not... Pictures later. [edit] Updates & pictures here. [/edit] |
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Post by kyral on Oct 5, 2013 21:21:05 GMT -5
I have watched it about 6 times now. I will soon be making an army of purple Worms and have them lined up on the table just to scare the hell out of my players.... and guard my mead...
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Post by Theely on Oct 6, 2013 21:11:34 GMT -5
Is there something special going on with the white glue being used? I wrapped the tubes in wet paper towels and squirted glue madly all over the thing. 4 hours later it was still damp and you couldn't really tell there was much glue. It was strange. I took a blow dryer to it see if needed more time to dry but it just didn't cut it. The worm was soggy and limp. I ended up running some lines of hot-glue down the body and trying it again with an additional wrap of tower and more glue. I'll check in the morning, hopefully it turns out. Early bird gets the Purple Worm!
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Post by bloodchoke on Oct 6, 2013 22:58:15 GMT -5
What a bad ass purple worm! Definitely one of the coolest videos in the history of youtube! It's amazing that you can make a better mini out of household waste and glue than the ones available commercially. Definitely going on the long list of DM Scotty-stolen creations.
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Post by tauster on Oct 7, 2013 1:57:33 GMT -5
Is there something special going on with the white glue being used? I wrapped the tubes in wet paper towels and squirted glue madly all over the thing. 4 hours later it was still damp and you couldn't really tell there was much glue. It was strange. I took a blow dryer to it see if needed more time to dry but it just didn't cut it. The worm was soggy and limp. I ended up running some lines of hot-glue down the body and trying it again with an additional wrap of tower and more glue. I'll check in the morning, hopefully it turns out. Early bird gets the Purple Worm! Depending on how wet (damp) your paper was, how much whiteglue you used and how well the dampness can evaporate, it can take up to one day for it to dry & harden. So don't worry, giving it one night time should be enough and it should be ready in the morning. Tell us how it turnd out! |
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Post by kyral on Oct 7, 2013 3:35:48 GMT -5
I will be starting my first one tonight so hopefully I will be able to make a few more over the course of the week... Luckily when I make stuff I usually make a few of them at once.
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Post by hezrou on Oct 7, 2013 6:38:13 GMT -5
no tried this yet, but when i do in the paper towel wrap part I will mix the white glue into the water to make it a runny paste.
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Post by Theely on Oct 7, 2013 17:36:33 GMT -5
So after letting it sit and dry over night and while at work, it is almost completely dry. I'd say about 98% dry. It must due to the chill temp of my house. I'll take a hair drier to it again. I doubt I'll share progress pics unless something odd happens but I'll certainly share a photo when I'm done! I'm a noob painter though so it won't look all pro like Scotty's.  |
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Post by zellybrown on Oct 7, 2013 23:31:25 GMT -5
Glad you guys enjoyed the vid. I've always hated the lil' dinky Purple Worms. Anything cast near the size I made would be hundreds of dollars. I love the scale that worm is awesome. When a purple worm comes out of the ground the party should have to look straight up in the air anyways lol....... |
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Post by bloodchoke on Oct 8, 2013 20:53:46 GMT -5
So will this thread be the community purple worm gallery? I started one last weekend, but now I've decided I need a slightly different black one to make an upcoming encounter epic. Hoping to get that knocked out this weekend.
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Post by bloodchoke on Oct 8, 2013 21:00:59 GMT -5
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Post by dmbrad on Oct 8, 2013 23:53:54 GMT -5
The tail seems kinda weird to me, why would the head and tail both be above ground at the same time? |
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 9, 2013 10:27:46 GMT -5
Around 20 Years ago, I had a group going down a vertical chimney, around 5,000(?) feet deep, to a buried city. They had to spend a couple of nights, in side tunnels, resting, before they reached the bottom -- it was not an easy trek. Along the way, they decided to explore one of these 'side tunnels', only to discover that it had been hewn by a Purple Worm... Wish I'd had this video, back then!
With regards to, "When would you have the tail, and the head, above ground, anyway?" Well, how about running into one in a large chamber? They don't always have to be boring through the ground, they likely have large, open chambers where they nest, and perhaps even breed? Remember the original DMG's drawing of this creature, with PC's attacking its side, as well as some poor saps in front of its mouth? To really scare the fecal matter out of your players, plop down a complete, above-ground model of this behemoth on your gaming table...
My current group of players will be visiting that underground city to find some lost information... I may just have a need to build one of these incredible models yet. I think I will go for the whole enchilada, tail and all, just for the fecal effect. Cheers!
PS:
To speed the drying process, try heating your oven at its lowest setting, typically around 170 degrees Fahrenheit -- paper ignites at 451 F? Put the model inside, and bake it for 20 minutes, or however long it takes, but check it every 20 minutes to see how it is progressing. Use Parchment Paper as a cover, on your cookie sheet, as virtually nothing sticks to this stuff -- not even paint!
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Post by bloodchoke on Oct 9, 2013 13:34:54 GMT -5
It would be really cool to make the entire worm. Running into one of those things in confined spaces would definitely be a feces inducing experience. I was thinking I might have the worm attack and then burrow back down into the ground just a few feet away, maybe several times, perhaps taking a PC or NPC down with it. I'm basing it separately, so if I don't ever need it, no big deal.
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Post by belatucadras on Oct 9, 2013 14:12:57 GMT -5
My game has steampunk elements. This weekend I will be retooling this into a mechanical mining machine designed by a crazed artificer. Thanks for the vid.
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 9, 2013 22:03:51 GMT -5
I went back to the 2nd Ed. AD&D Monster Manual for the skinny on the infamous Purple Worm: 8-9 feet in diameter, reliable sources consistently claim lengths of 140-150 feet! Working in a scale of 25mm = 6 feet, that means a full model would be 38mm in diameter, and 23.8"-24.6" long. I measured the ubiquitous Toilet Paper Tube: 43mm in diameter (10 feet), by 4" long, which means I will need to use a total of six tubes (~24" length) to make a full-length model, in proper scale (for figures between 25mm-30mm size).
"Why would the tail and head both be above ground?"
Because the Purple Worm has a poison stinger in its tail, which it uses to kill its prey, prior to eating them. They have, until now, always been modeled erupting from the ground, to save costs, and to make them easier to make, I would guess.
I have four tubes in waiting, so I need two more, before I can complete the whole Worm model. However, I have enough to begin the project. I plan to use the same type of air-dry clay to make the mouth, and the tail stinger section. With the stinger as a weapon, it would be natural for the Worm to coil its body when fighting/gathering food, so that means that it won't have to be stretched out straight, taking up precious table space! It also solves the problem of making a model which will not require heavy weighting to keep it from falling over, due to its rearing head. This should be a blast to throw together... Cheers!
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Post by dmbrad on Oct 9, 2013 22:13:34 GMT -5
I get the whole stinger thing, but I would think that the worm would be fully out of the ground for that.
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Post by agsupernaturalfe on Oct 9, 2013 23:48:56 GMT -5
Guess I opened a can of purple worms with this thread huh? (hehehe .... Sorry about that I had to) I do like the stinger idea, but I think DMBrad's got a good point. Logically the PCs would probably be underground with the worm or the worm fully above ground with the PCs .... Or you could waste some of the Purple Worm's movement or solos on boring back underground & sending it's tail up for a separate move, & then there's always theater of the mind just ogle the macro-mini for the cool craft that it is and just play out the stinger attack with role play and area of effect. (I'm still probably gonna make a stinger though .... Hehehe). And yes this is now the official purple worm posting thread! (Stakes flag & claims land in the name of DMScotty)
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Post by tauster on Oct 10, 2013 2:36:13 GMT -5
sgtslagThanks for the stinger combat ideas (and going mack to the 2e MM for the details). I had completely forgotten that part of the worm... I'm not sure about baking it in the oven... I think I'll just will be patient and let it dry out completely. I have enough other unfinished projects to work on in the meantime (which is one of the advantages of this hobby!) belatucadrasConverting the worm into a steampunk tunneling machine?!¿? ... *several silent moments of speechlessness*  ... Holy sh*t, that is the single best, most wicked idea I've seen so far regarding the worm!  I will definitely copy that idea, and since I don't have immediate use for such a monster in my campaigns, I will modify their story to include it. This is simply too great an idea to just craft it and leave it to gather dust! agsupernaturalfeI'll post my wormy updates in my tentacles thread but crosspost a link here for the sake of having all community worms in one nest, erm... thread. @all If you want to do a longer model, for example the complete worm, or something else where you need a long tube with bends and curves, you might want to consider the following idea: Get the hose from an old vacuum cleaner, cut off the required length and use this instead of cardboard rolls. Most will probably not allow for very sharp corners, and you might need an extra pair of hands to bend it in the desired shape while you apply the hotglue and wait for it to harden (enough hardened hotglue should fix the bent hose in place), but other than that, it should save a lot of time - the longer your model is, the more time you'll save... I haven't tried it so far (for lack of a disposable hose), so if someone does, please share with us how it turned out. |
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 10, 2013 8:50:09 GMT -5
I love the look of the armor plating, but the 2e Worm does not sport armor anywhere. Instead, it has a relatively low AC of 6... It is just a leather-skinned worm. The 2e image shows two eyes, as well, but that really doesn't make sense to me: worms should not have a 'back', and a 'belly', nor should they have 'eyes', IMO. Mine will be a bit different from what DM Scotty and the rest of you are doing, I imagine.
The vacuum hose would be quite useful for me, as I plan on making semi-concentric rings, around its whole body length, which is what it appears to have, in the official image, and the ribs on the hose would lend a tremendous hand in forming those rings! Alas, I will work studiously with my Hot Glue Gun to form the rings, manually -- I don't have a spare hose, either.
I did use my oven regularly, to bake-dry Dip'ed (Minwax Polyshades urethane-stain) figures, and vehicles (self-cleaning oven: if the fumes leave anything behind, it is quite easy to just clean the oven, and burn everything off in the process), but I recently purchased a crock pot/slow cooker to do my toys in ($20, but you cannot put Hot Glue treated toys in it, as the Glue will melt...). It takes less energy, so it is far more efficient. It also allows me to do the work in the garage, where fumes won't bother anyone. With the PVA-slathered Worm model, fumes would not be an issue. I am too impatient, and I hate having a wet model sitting around for days, where it can easily be damaged before it fully cures. Your situation may vary. Cheers!
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