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Post by tauster on Aug 21, 2013 14:32:44 GMT -5
sorry for the doublepun in the title, couldn't resist... I'll need mushrooms in my underdark campaign very soon, as the party will first enter a part of the King's Highway*, and from there through a portal into the Feydark**. * --> nuntonlibrary.wikia.com/wiki/Torog ** --> www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/20100108Mushrooms come in various shapes, fey mushrooms should be even weirder and for the mutated mushrooms I want some extraoedinary cool stuff. I had already seen some mushroom variants here, plus some ideas from other youtube videos, so what follows below is a bucket full of fungus fun. ...and that was the last bad pun of this posting. Not because of self-restraint but because the posting ends here.
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Post by tauster on Aug 21, 2013 14:54:36 GMT -5
I wanted some relatively simple and small dungeon dressing tiles that represented mosses and lichen, but large enough for the PC to sumble over them and alien enough to make them think twice if they really want to step on that stuff. I found some growth in the garden on an old willow and on dead wood that fit perfectly. I hotglued it on mosaic tiles (2x2 cm) that come cheap and that make excellent bases. You'll get those tiles in all kinds of colors and textures, even some that look like ancient bone. *drool*
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Post by tauster on Aug 21, 2013 15:04:20 GMT -5
Next type is the classic giant mushroom, large enough to walk under or even on the mushroom's heads. I had already seen something similar (mushroom headss made of cardboard and the stems made of pencils), but I don't like that they will take up too much storage space. So I glued old bottlecaps below the heads and neodym magnets (5x5x2 mm) to the stems. Besides better storability, now I can use the stems for other things as well (trees maybe?). I covered heads and stems completely with hotglue to give them some texture. The ones on the pictures below took me about half an hour to get this far. I'm not sure about which color-scheme to use, so I'll paint them later... BtW: I discovered that neodym magnets have gotten dirt-cheap since last time I looked (several years ago). I know that they have a very bad ecological footprint (coming more than 90% from china/mongolia, with some very serious pollution issues). This is something I usually take extremely serious and avoid at all costs, but creative greed (...so many possibilities!) got the better of me and I ordered 200 smal (5x5x2 mm) magnets for less than 15 Euro, shipping included. Ridiculous price, if you ask me...
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Post by tauster on Aug 21, 2013 15:10:58 GMT -5
The following was inspired by Miniwargaming’s wicked idea of making alien vegetation our of straws: However 'inspired’ is the wrong word, as I blatantly copied the whole thang. The only idea I added was to glue small magnets to the bottom of the plants and to the bases, creating two major advantages: 1) Much better portability. Now you can stack the relatively flat bases and keep the plants in a small box. 2) Better flexibility: You can use the bases together with other decoration and you can stick the plants to other things. I’ll post pictures of the complete tiles later on. The holes in the stems, with their orange-red rim, almost look like screaming mouths. I plan to use that in-game, making these weirdos into a kind of underdark reed that got mutated byTorog's madness left behind as some kind of divine background radiation of evil/madness/pain, so these plants now telepathically scream the pain of their warped bodies out. Let's see the party fight against themselves and/or imaginary foes!
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Post by dm1scotty on Aug 21, 2013 19:15:24 GMT -5
Fun ideas
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Post by thedmg on Aug 21, 2013 22:42:00 GMT -5
On my list of videos to do are these... Very simple using only the standard materials shown so far. Cardstock, Kebab skewers, hot glue and paint and waterbased gloss varnish.
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Post by tauster on Aug 22, 2013 4:45:52 GMT -5
I had seen this picture before and absolutely LOVE these mushrooms!
Just from the picture alone, I can't really figure out how to get the warping of the caps right, so I can't wait to see your vid...
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Post by caveman on Aug 24, 2013 11:21:56 GMT -5
The magnet idea for breakdown/storage/modularity is really cool. Your unpainted mushrooms looked great, and the "reeds-in-psychic-pain" tile looked totally otherwordly. Great job!
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Post by tauster on Sept 15, 2013 15:38:30 GMT -5
I modified DMG's mushroom variant another bit...This is what I had done so far: i.imgur.com/6fE4zFo.jpgThat's basically copying DMG's method, plus glueing a neodym magnet in the base of the toadstool. Now, instead of building the 'shroom cap completely out of hotglue,... 1) I formed the basic cone-shape with a piece of strong paper and glued it on a circle: i.imgur.com/O4nVj7n.jpg2) Then I just build up hotglue on the cone and waited for it to dry: i.imgur.com/cWdpSRP.jpg3) Since hotglue can take quite long until it cools down and isn't sticky anymore (a fact that frustrated me to no end...), find something to stabilise the piece so that you don't have to hold it until it's cold. These three corks do a good job, but if you do more than one piece (which is quite likely), you'll need lots of corks. And you can bet that some will topple and leave you with sticky mess of hotglue. Murphy's law says thatthis will happen in the worst possible situation, creating the most possible chaos on your craft desk (domino effect, anyone?). Today I ended up with nine toadstools, in less than half the time I needed for the first batch: i.imgur.com/CbnZTCo.jpg
Haven't glued on the neodyms and couldn't paint'em so far, but I am quite happy with the outcome.
...oh, and there's one other thing I figured out today...
I hadn't seen it so far anywhere, so it is either so incredibly trivial that nobody bothered to mention it so far, or I just stumbled over a new hotglue technique that is worth a nomination for the Nobel Price of crafting.
...hey, I didn't ever say I'm modest!
As I said above and we all probably know this from experience, hotglue can be quite frustrating to work with. Not only does it take a long time to cool down, there's also the thing that it when you touch it while it's hot, you'll draw these whisps and filaments, which usually create a mess. Not more. Instead of waiting for it to cool down, dip it in cold water. [astonished silence] Dip. It. In. Cold. Water.Only five words, but they have changed my crafting. I also never said I'm into avoiding hyperboles...
First, you'll save yourself a whole lot of waiting time. Second, when dipping it in cold water, you can arrest the shape of the hotglue. Let me explain: I often applied hotglue and got it in a nice shape, only to see it running away because it was too liquid. If you dip it in water, it instantly gets cold and keeps whatever shape it was in. I still have to experiment with this, but I suspect this opens up new ways of shaping / modelling with hotglue...
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Post by thedmg on Sept 16, 2013 9:14:54 GMT -5
Great idea, soon to be stolen...
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Post by tauster on Sept 17, 2013 8:35:12 GMT -5
The painted toadstools, this time using a more muted color scheme: i.imgur.com/yFxahpw.jpgThe one in the center on the red screw cap is the stem of a garlic bulb.I just glued a neodym on the bottom and gave the stem a light brown priming to cover the hotglue. The next batch of toadstools is already in the works: i.imgur.com/zHLGYLa.jpgThis is how many cones you'll get from a CD cover: i.imgur.com/y2ilRq4.jpgI used the cap of an empty deo roll-on as guide for the circles (diameter 4,6mm). If you want broader caps, cut the circles in half. For more pointed caps, cut them in thirds. A strip of scotch tape holds the cone together (faster than hotglue or whiteglue). [edit] 'nother shot with natural light: i.imgur.com/T0mRsDG.jpg On the left side you can see the next toadstool variant: acorn caps. Pretty obvious, when you think about it... They are smaller than the current toadstool batches (which are slightly higher than a normal-sized creature), yet still large enough for a halfling to get at least some cover behind it. It already somes with an interesting texture, and if you prefer natural colors*, you don't even have to paint the cap. * Of course when you want them to be growing in the underdark, any color can be considered 'natural'...Once you get an eye for shapes, you can't take a walk without finding some stuff - especially in autumn. I hope that eventually, my neighbours will get used to me constantly picking up stuff on the streets...
Here's another variant for mushrooms: You can buy dried mushrooms that are funnel-shaped on ebay. They're used by florists and for decoration, so they come in bags of dozens or even hundreds and are quite cheap. I'm not sure about their english name, but the german online entries I found call them "Kalix". small variant: i.imgur.com/ie05i1Y.jpglarge variant: i.imgur.com/Fqi9BSB.jpg
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Post by tauster on Sept 18, 2013 3:06:59 GMT -5
...guess what: 'nother kind'o fungus! (I think I might have an unhealthy funghi obsession.) Try to find some dried lotus pods. Like the funnel-shaped mushrooms, they are used by florists and as decoration material and come quiet cheap. I got a box of 50 pods, prepainted (burgundy, i.e. red/brown) for 13 euro, shipping costs already included: i.imgur.com/HUonjLD.jpgYou don't really have to do much - they already look wicked enough. The brown 'stump' i sculpted from modelling paste, but paper maché should do the job equally well. Just form a little cone, press the small end of the lotus pod in to form the crater, add some texture on the sides (I pressed a piece of bark in the still-malleable modelling paste), let it dry and paint it up and you're done. They're ideal as mushrooms (the harmless variant), but I prefer to use them as brood chambers for critters. Seriously, this stuff looks like the organic kindergarden for tyranids or aliens, or whatever swarming creatures you want to throw at your players. You don't even have to come up with some foreboding text to read or tell your players - when you put up the dungeon terrain (with the usual descriptions, you put the lotus piece on the table last ( after the party's miniatures) and fall silent. Don't describe it, let the optics of this thing do the job. Look ominously, or try to make no speciaol expression at all. I think the players will be scared like hell.
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Post by bloodchoke on Sept 18, 2013 3:46:11 GMT -5
Awesome stuff, Tauster, everything here looks excellent. I think you are undisputed forum expert on fungi.
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Post by thedmg on Sept 18, 2013 9:48:27 GMT -5
He is a fun guy...
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Post by tauster on Sept 20, 2013 17:51:36 GMT -5
Worked on the 3rd batch of toadstools (16 pieces, all with papercone-caps as described above). The lord of the house already approved them. So today I finished painting the stems, but I am stull unsure which colors to use for the caps... All have neodym bases, and the hotglue whisps on the bases of the stems proved to be a godsend, because they add really great texture when basepainted and drybrushed. - mahagony brown as basepaint, then - an olive/ocre/sand color for 1st drybrush layer (with a bit more color left on the brush than usual, as I wanted to cover most of the dark brown), then - the same color, mixed heavily with white. See here for the two drybrush-colors. First drybrush layer applied: i.imgur.com/kuHNXIM.jpgi.imgur.com/BV2FSz8.jpgSecond drybrush layer applied: i.imgur.com/otVkW4v.jpgi.imgur.com/lDo5kO7.jpgThe stems came out very organic-looking, and I'm quite happy with the result. My concern is that the caps won't have such a look, as the glue there dried more uniformly. So either I torture the caps again with the hot gluegun or I'll have to paint some structure on... I also thought about giving the stems a layer of clear acrylic glossy varnish, but I did this on the greenish-brown batch and I don't really like the resut. It looks too wet and/or plastic. Now that I have both variants in front of me, I definitely prefer the matte look.
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Post by tauster on Sept 23, 2013 4:06:33 GMT -5
Got another batch finished, and some of the previous batch re-done (I didn't like the green & brown color scheme). Some pictures below, with a few comments (I try to keep myself from rambling, lets see if I succeed). With these I kept the original color scheme, but only for the heads: i.imgur.com/T8hwcGO.jpgThe classic red-with-white-dots variant: i.imgur.com/MHOFpbz.jpgYou can see it not very well in the shot, but I varied the red: The two in the background have a lighter shade, while the other two have another, slightly darker red layer painted on. Plus, I like the stems in the foreground much better (more on these below). The two reds in the foreground look a bit like chilis. I started with a dark orange and added a rather thick red layer: i.imgur.com/jcL3snr.jpgThe brown ones are not really bad, but nothing exciting either. The large mushroom on the right was the center stem of a garlic buld in it's former life. i.imgur.com/KA5HWBa.jpgI left some models unfinished so that in case I stumble over a nice idea in the future, I don't have to start from scratch. Having some blank 'shrooms left over gives me a head-start, saves a lot of work and thus keep the threshold low for trying out new fungus stuff. i.imgur.com/x6cn85u.jpgThis is my favourite batch: i.imgur.com/mYq4yNl.jpgThey started out as the green-brown variants that I wanted to modify. I fired up the hotglue gun and pressed the nozzle in the cap's glue when it was only warm but not extremly hot. This leaves a nice crater-like impression in the cap. I think it looks organic (in the sense of grown) but unnatural at the same time, making them ideal for terrain in the Feydark (underdark meets faerie plane). I will probably convert some (or all) of the blanks to this, but maye with a different color scheme. I'm still looking for some cool name for the different kinds... I think the cratered ones will be called faerie eyes, eye-caps... And they should have some magical effect, or at least be used in a way connected to magic... for example growing only in the presence of strong faerie magic like a gate between the two worlds, or somesuch. Ideas are welcome!I absolutely love how the stems turned out. You can get this in the usual way (drawing the nozzle of the gluegun over the glue to create texture), and then touching the glue while it hasn't completely settled - which does exactly what you usually want to avoid: Drawing glue whisps. Here, the whisps and filaments are a desired result. Basepaint the whole stem in a dark brown, add a much lighter, sand- or mud-colored tone with a heavy stroke of the brush and drybrush it with an off-white , light grey or white. I can very well see underdark races using these mushroom stems as building materials, the way that surfacers use wood (only that in the underdark, this ' fungus ersatz wood' should be much rarer). So if I ever build some underdark terrain that involve pieces that the native races had crafted, I could use this technique for the fungus wood. The downside is that is is much more work- and thus time-consuming that simply using a wooden variant like in DMG's doors & bokcases. But who cares if the end result looks better? ...so there you have it: I rambled again.
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Post by thedmg on Sept 23, 2013 10:27:38 GMT -5
Excellent stuff... hotglumagoo
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Post by septimuss on Sept 23, 2013 12:22:20 GMT -5
Your mosses and mushrooms are superb! Lots of excellent ideas.
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Post by skunkape on Sept 25, 2013 12:05:30 GMT -5
Really great looking terrain! Really like the last set in the picture you posted on the 23rd!
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Post by slurpy on Sept 30, 2013 18:21:16 GMT -5
The lotus pods are fantastic.
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Post by tauster on Nov 10, 2013 16:00:22 GMT -5
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