gallant
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Post by gallant on Mar 15, 2013 12:28:35 GMT -5
Inspired by DM Scottys short tip video #29 on cart props I made a cart using coffee stirring sticks made of wood, white glue and cardstock strips. Hint: Paint wooden sticks before assembly, white glue seems to disolve when using too much water when painting. Found out the hard way... Cart wheels are made from cardboard and cardstock strips. I made two cuts on each wheel to make them look like they were made from planks.
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Mar 15, 2013 14:24:58 GMT -5
Post by danielc on Mar 15, 2013 14:24:58 GMT -5
Looks great. I love the way the whoel thing looks authentic.
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Mar 15, 2013 15:54:52 GMT -5
Post by dm1scotty on Mar 15, 2013 15:54:52 GMT -5
Great look. The planks look really cool.
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Mar 15, 2013 16:39:05 GMT -5
Post by unclebilly on Mar 15, 2013 16:39:05 GMT -5
Great looking cart
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Mar 15, 2013 16:55:54 GMT -5
Post by althalusredeemed on Mar 15, 2013 16:55:54 GMT -5
Looks awesome, what did you use for the 'metal' strips?
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Mar 15, 2013 17:49:10 GMT -5
Post by everking on Mar 15, 2013 17:49:10 GMT -5
The scale is perfect. Nice work!
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Mar 15, 2013 20:30:14 GMT -5
Post by hideousprime on Mar 15, 2013 20:30:14 GMT -5
Big time!!!
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gallant
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Mar 16, 2013 0:00:07 GMT -5
Post by gallant on Mar 16, 2013 0:00:07 GMT -5
Looks awesome, what did you use for the 'metal' strips? I used two long cardstock strips that stretched all around and underneath the cart. This gives some needed extra sturdiness if using white glue to assembly the "planks" (keeps them in place while the glue hardens)
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Mar 16, 2013 8:59:49 GMT -5
Post by althalusredeemed on Mar 16, 2013 8:59:49 GMT -5
Looks awesome, what did you use for the 'metal' strips? I used two long cardstock strips that stretched all around and underneath the cart. This gives some needed extra sturdiness if using white glue to assembly the "planks" (keeps them in place while the glue hardens) Thanks I'm being inspired to make my own now.
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spiralbound
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Mar 16, 2013 17:19:21 GMT -5
Post by spiralbound on Mar 16, 2013 17:19:21 GMT -5
I love your cart, it's every bit as good as DM Scotty's. I was going to make a cart as per DM Scotty's method, but I think I may incorporate some of your techniques as well to make a hybrid cart. I ALSO like the dirt road you made! It looks like hot glue for texture, with some construction sand tossed in, and then painted brown. Am I correct? Did you press the sand into the hot glue or glue it on with white glue after the hot glue set?
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gallant
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Mar 17, 2013 4:50:22 GMT -5
Post by gallant on Mar 17, 2013 4:50:22 GMT -5
I ALSO like the dirt road you made! It looks like hot glue for texture, with some construction sand tossed in, and then painted brown. Am I correct? Did you press the sand into the hot glue or glue it on with white glue after the hot glue set? Thanks I used glue gun for texture, then white glue and construction sand to show tracks. Outside the road I painted with texture color before spraying everything black (I can't find the brown texture spray DM Scotty often uses in Sweden, guess that would be easier). I base painted with dark brown, highlighted with normal brown and finally drybrushed with light brown. Inside the tracks I used varnish to make it look a bit wet.
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Mar 17, 2013 19:31:49 GMT -5
Post by nubaumpalemoon on Mar 17, 2013 19:31:49 GMT -5
Outstanding work. Well done!
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Mar 21, 2013 10:59:54 GMT -5
Post by skunkape on Mar 21, 2013 10:59:54 GMT -5
Great work!
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luciano
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Jul 18, 2013 13:26:39 GMT -5
Post by luciano on Jul 18, 2013 13:26:39 GMT -5
Very beautiful piece! With a visual appeal very cool! You just used hot glue to glue the sticks together, or used another trick?
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gallant
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Jul 20, 2013 2:54:01 GMT -5
Post by gallant on Jul 20, 2013 2:54:01 GMT -5
Very beautiful piece! With a visual appeal very cool! You just used hot glue to glue the sticks together, or used another trick? I used white glue for the sides of the cart. The gluing surface is rather limited between the "planks" and I found white glue to be sturdier. I also did not want the excess glue to be visible. The cardstock "iron" bands help stabilize while waiting for the glue to harden, but I needed to hold the "planks" together by hand as well. Underneath the cart I used a piece of cardstock to stabilize the bottom planks. I used white glue here as well but I think hot glue would work perfectly fine.
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robur
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Aug 18, 2013 11:34:35 GMT -5
Post by robur on Aug 18, 2013 11:34:35 GMT -5
It looks FANTASTIC! Great work!
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Aug 18, 2013 11:41:08 GMT -5
Good work, others have commented on it but the scale and metal work catch my eye
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AJ
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Aug 18, 2013 14:15:51 GMT -5
Post by AJ on Aug 18, 2013 14:15:51 GMT -5
Very nice!
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Post by monkeywithtacos on Aug 18, 2013 15:02:19 GMT -5
That is awesome work...Another piece of inspiration for me!
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thedmg
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Aug 18, 2013 18:04:02 GMT -5
Post by thedmg on Aug 18, 2013 18:04:02 GMT -5
Excellent cart. I find using white glue with coffee stirrers a slow process and a bit cumbersome to hold together. I understand that you use it to hide the glue. As you said you used hot glue, as I do, but do not want to be able to see the glue. I wipe off excess glue before it dries. It is MUCH faster on things like this, especially if you are building many. Both methods have advantages, I merely post this for use by others. The problem with pre-painting before applying the glue is that you are bonding paint to paint and not wood to wood, which sometimes leads to problems down the track after extensive use. When using hot glue with coffee stirrers make sure the glue is given enough time to heat up. It must be quite runny. Otherwise it will lose its grip later on. Same with cardboard.
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gallant
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Aug 19, 2013 10:51:00 GMT -5
Post by gallant on Aug 19, 2013 10:51:00 GMT -5
Excellent cart. I find using white glue with coffee stirrers a slow process and a bit cumbersome to hold together. I understand that you use it to hide the glue. As you said you used hot glue, as I do, but do not want to be able to see the glue. I wipe off excess glue before it dries. It is MUCH faster on things like this, especially if you are building many. Both methods have advantages, I merely post this for use by others. The problem with pre-painting before applying the glue is that you are bonding paint to paint and not wood to wood, which sometimes leads to problems down the track after extensive use. When using hot glue with coffee stirrers make sure the glue is given enough time to heat up. It must be quite runny. Otherwise it will lose its grip later on. Same with cardboard. TheDMG, I saw your video on making chests and your wiping off hot glue technique sure looked a lot easier! That technique would also make it easier to paint after glueing since you could add the cardstock "metal bands" afterwards (I applied the cardstock bands immediately to help keep the cart together while glueing and they kinda dissolved when a tried bringing forth the wood structure using wash paint). Would I redo the cart I would try hot glue/wipe off. The original white glue construction is quite sturdy though. It has survived a few months with my 3 and 5 year old kids stealing it now and then
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thedmg
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Post by thedmg on Aug 20, 2013 6:18:36 GMT -5
My chests have survived being chewed and stashed under the fridge...
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tauster
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Aug 21, 2013 7:19:24 GMT -5
Post by tauster on Aug 21, 2013 7:19:24 GMT -5
excellent piece, as all the others before me said!
one idea for the whole thing becoming a bit sturdier even during the crafting process is to glue the planks of the wagon's bottom on a thin piece of cardboard or even only paper. as long as nobody looks below the wagon, it'll be invisible - and you should have an easier time assembling it than otherwise.
just my two copper; haven't tried it so far...
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thedmg
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Aug 21, 2013 7:55:42 GMT -5
Post by thedmg on Aug 21, 2013 7:55:42 GMT -5
one idea for the whole thing becoming a bit sturdier even during the crafting process is to glue the planks of the wagon's bottom on a thin piece of cardboard or even only paper. as long as nobody looks below the wagon, it'll be invisible - and you should have an easier time assembling it than otherwise. If you watch my door video and bridge video I use a lollipop stick brace across the planks. This helps to hold everything in place. As in the bridge video I talk about increasing the surface area of pieces to aid in glueing. Same with my latest Table video. Although your cardboard idea is correct and perfectly valid, you are also correct in that the bottom will be cardboard which poses a problem when the cart is overturned for whatever reason. The aesthetic should win through in the end.
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Aug 21, 2013 14:13:41 GMT -5
Post by tauster on Aug 21, 2013 14:13:41 GMT -5
@ thedmg
Your bridge is one of the few vids I had missed so far, but I remember having seen the lollipop technique in the door video... Btw: I got some hundred* lollipop sticks from ebay. I loved the way you cut them in your tutorial with simple scissors - but I ended up with sticks made from hardwood. Even my extremely large scissors were unable to do a clean cut. I ended up scoring it multiple times with the craft knife, carefully braking it and cutting the wood fibres away. Took me more than one hour to make two little treasure chests. * If it's cheap anyways, always buy way more than you need. First, it gets even much cheaper that way and second, you never know what else you can use the material for. Works only when enough storage room is available... The aesthetic should win through in the end.--> You're right. Even if said aesthetic hides under a wagon. However the idea of glueing simple (i.e. thin) paper under the sticks might still be good for something: If you glue the sticks only to the paper or better: thin cloth and not to each other, you should end up with something very flexible. You should be able to bend it around, with the paper/cloth being on the inside and the sticks on the outside. I have no idea what exactly to make with that method, but it should be good for something... *thinks* - Barrels - round roofs? - any round cylindrical shape, basically. Hey, why not leave it to the community here to come up with ideas?
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Post by thedmg on Aug 21, 2013 17:12:26 GMT -5
You could cut the hardwood sticks with wire cutters. They will apply more force.
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tauster
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Aug 21, 2013 17:14:15 GMT -5
Post by tauster on Aug 21, 2013 17:14:15 GMT -5
You could cut the hardwood sticks with wire cutters. They will apply more force. I tried, but the sticks tend to break when using wire cutters.
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Aug 21, 2013 22:33:52 GMT -5
Post by thedmg on Aug 21, 2013 22:33:52 GMT -5
I tried, but the sticks tend to break when using wire cutters. You'll probably need cheaper sticks...
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