ohris
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Post by ohris on Oct 17, 2013 6:15:31 GMT -5
Ive been wanting to try and make a simple 3d DnD board for some time and now I seem to have the time so here goes (hope I make it). This first picture is actually an old one and I have a lot more wall carved now and the board is painted black (will update more photos later): (also my camera is my phone so the pictures might not be the best but hopefully you can get the idea) Im now thinking that I might slice a piece off from the walls to make them a little bit narrower than the squares are so that there is a bit more room for the figures. The walls are also made relatively short so they wont fall down and its easy to see the models from different angles (models are propably a bit taller than the walls). I will now focus on making enough different kinds of wall pieces to make several kinds of dungeons and after that I will be making doors, tables and other objects and perhaps some templates for pitfalls and such... They will propably be very simple but time will tell. Put a little paint on the board... maybe I need another layer of whiter drybrush... A small update (painting obviously in the making):
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Post by ohris on Oct 17, 2013 6:20:11 GMT -5
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Post by dmbrad on Oct 17, 2013 7:54:38 GMT -5
You desecrat the sanctity of gridless play! You may be using 2.5d, but it is lazy, gridded 2.5d. If this is the future of crafting, I will stay in the past. I have to say that this is the first time I have seen someone bash someone else on this forum. The people on this forum are here to learn from other crafters and to share their works to help and inspire other crafters. Just because he chooses to play with a grid does not mean that he is lazy. In fact, putting grids on tiles is more work than gridless. In one of your recent threads you posted this picture from your game. And you are calling him lazy? I chose not to comment on this because I was taught that "If you do not have something nice to say then do not say anything at all". As to the original poster Chris, I look forward to seeing your stuff when you get it all painted up. Please keep posting pics of your progress.
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Post by skunkape on Oct 17, 2013 9:16:32 GMT -5
I also look forward to seeing your progress on your foam modular dungeon Chris! Good work on the carving so far. I say that having lots of experience carving foam!
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Post by dm1scotty on Oct 17, 2013 10:14:20 GMT -5
Almost need a grid with walls that high as measuring can be a real pain.
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Post by ashrothedm on Oct 17, 2013 10:25:49 GMT -5
How thick is the bottom piece?
Just thinking out loud here:
If you have a thin piece of sheet steel on the underside, some neodymium magnets could be secured to the bottom of your modular walls, which would hold them neatly in place.
... oops... no time to continue my thought... power just went out at work, time to work.
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Post by geekchris on Oct 17, 2013 11:11:37 GMT -5
You desecrat the sanctity of gridless play! You may be using 2.5d, but it is lazy, gridded 2.5d. If this is the future of crafting, I will stay in the past. I have to say that this is the first time I have seen someone bash someone else on this forum. The people on this forum are here to learn from other crafters and to share their works to help and inspire other crafters. Just because he chooses to play with a grid does not mean that he is lazy. In fact, putting grids on tiles is more work than gridless. In one of your recent threads you posted this picture from your game. And you are calling him lazy? I chose not to comment on this because I was taught that "If you do not have something nice to say then do not say anything at all". As to the original poster Chris, I look forward to seeing your stuff when you get it all painted up. Please keep posting pics of your progress. This was after all my tiles were destroyed when my basement floaded:/. Although judgement comes to those who judge. Life lesson: dont judge. In all honesty, it was more of a joke but, for peace, I apologize
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Post by geekchris on Oct 17, 2013 11:41:25 GMT -5
You desecrat the sanctity of gridless play! You may be using 2.5d, but it is lazy, gridded 2.5d. If this is the future of crafting, I will stay in the past. <sarcasm> Im so sorry if this offends you. </sarcasm> Its not that I prefer one way or another but since my group is so used to grid playing, I decided to go this way. Also there is nothing that really prevents me from playing it gridless with the board. Just ignore the grids and move with a measure. If you have nothing better to say then just keep it to yourself and ignore the post. As for the other comments, thanks for the encouragement... More to come. It was just a joke. Why is everyone so serious here-I deleted the post if that makes you feel happiet. Sorry if I offended you, it was just a friendly joke ;-). Crafter fist?
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Post by monkeywithtacos on Oct 17, 2013 12:05:02 GMT -5
You desecrat the sanctity of gridless play! You may be using 2.5d, but it is lazy, gridded 2.5d. If this is the future of crafting, I will stay in the past. <sarcasm> Im so sorry if this offends you. </sarcasm> Its not that I prefer one way or another but since my group is so used to grid playing, I decided to go this way. Also there is nothing that really prevents me from playing it gridless with the board. Just ignore the grids and move with a measure. If you have nothing better to say then just keep it to yourself and ignore the post. As for the other comments, thanks for the encouragement... More to come. Great looking work.... As for using tiles with the grids on them, I still use them even if we ignore the fact that the grid is there. No sense in wasting a good tile, map or in this case confuse your players. It's up to each DM to decide which way they want to play their games, and when it comes to crafting we all are here to share ideas and inspiration, not tease, bash or make fun of others artistic skills or lack thereof (in my case). We also have to keep in mind that it is very difficult to convey intent or personality or emotion (particularly humour and sarcasm) in a post on the internet. One may think they are making a joke, but another may take offense at it. We all have enough trolls to throw ar our players in game already, we don't need to have them showing up here. I think your tiles, Ohris, are coming along quite nicely and I also think Ashrothedm's idea has some real merit. It would certainly allow you a way to have your walls be modular without them moving or sliding during games. Can't wait to see how they turn out =)
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ohris
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Post by ohris on Oct 17, 2013 12:38:13 GMT -5
It was just a joke. Why is everyone so serious here-I deleted the post if that makes you feel happiet. Sorry if I offended you, it was just a friendly joke ;-). Crafter fist? Peace then... I did not get that it was a joke.
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ohris
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Post by ohris on Oct 17, 2013 12:42:05 GMT -5
How thick is the bottom piece? Just thinking out loud here: If you have a thin piece of sheet steel on the underside, some neodymium magnets could be secured to the bottom of your modular walls, which would hold them neatly in place. ... oops... no time to continue my thought... power just went out at work, time to work. Unfortunately my hardware store only sold 3cm thick foamboard and they do not cut it any thinner... So a magnetic sheet on the otherside is not feasible I think. I also though that it would be very helpful if I could somehow magnetise the board. I even though about magnetic paint but that stuff is expensive and I did not think about it until i had already started to paint the board. I could also attach some weights on the walls to make them more steady. I think Il try without first and try to do something if the walls are a pain to keep in place.
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Post by geekchris on Oct 17, 2013 13:47:34 GMT -5
It was just a joke. Why is everyone so serious here-I deleted the post if that makes you feel happiet. Sorry if I offended yiou, it was just a friendly joke ;-). Crafter fist? Peace then... I did not get that it was a joke. Sometimes jokes are lost in translation. A bit of advice-to get your PCs used to gridless, try the non-measuring system
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Post by hezrou on Oct 17, 2013 14:28:01 GMT -5
Nice work on the board. I am making modular rooms and passages at the mo and have had to put grids on. This is because our current DM does not want the pc's to be able to gain from gridless. We have a couple of slow players and having a grid means they can move the character quicker. We are playing 4th edition so the grid makes life easier.
looking forward to see more
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Post by tauster on Oct 17, 2013 14:58:11 GMT -5
I solved the magnet question for my crafted stuff the following way:
I cut these twist-off caps with a strong but old pair of scissors in little pieces (approx. 10x5 mm and some 5x5 mm), which I glue with whiteglue on my tiles, wherever I want them. For large general tiles like for example a 15 x 30 cm piece of rocky terrain (little rock chips glued to the cardboard), I sprinkle about a dozen metal chips in. If I would want to secure a wall like you do, I'd glue some metal scraps on the side of the cardboard piece in a row.
I paint everything up so that the metal bits are camouflaged by the paint, but still usable.
Then I either glue little neodym magnets to the pieces that I want to add to the tiles later (dungeon decoration like mushrooms, trees, tentacles, flames or whatever).
The main advantages are: - I can use dungeon decoration and the tiles more flexible and in combination with other tiles - easier storage (deco goes in a box, tiles remain flat and can be stacked
One variant: Don't glue a neodym magnet on, neither on the tile nor on the decoration piece - instead glue a metal scrap on both of them and keep your magnets separate. Advantage: you will need far fewer magnets in the long run, plus you don't have to care for magnet polarity.
Hope that helps!
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Post by ohris on Oct 17, 2013 23:43:16 GMT -5
I solved the magnet question for my crafted stuff the following way: I cut these twist-off caps with a strong but old pair of scissors in little pieces (approx. 10x5 mm and some 5x5 mm), which I glue with whiteglue on my tiles, wherever I want them. For large general tiles like for example a 15 x 30 cm piece of rocky terrain (little rock chips glued to the cardboard), I sprinkle about a dozen metal chips in. If I would want to secure a wall like you do, I'd glue some metal scraps on the side of the cardboard piece in a row. I paint everything up so that the metal bits are camouflaged by the paint, but still usable. Then I either glue little neodym magnets to the pieces that I want to add to the tiles later (dungeon decoration like mushrooms, trees, tentacles, flames or whatever). The main advantages are: - I can use dungeon decoration and the tiles more flexible and in combination with other tiles - easier storage (deco goes in a box, tiles remain flat and can be stacked One variant: Don't glue a neodym magnet on, neither on the tile nor on the decoration piece - instead glue a metal scrap on both of them and keep your magnets separate. Advantage: you will need far fewer magnets in the long run, plus you don't have to care for magnet polarity. Hope that helps! I dont quite understand what you mean. "twist-off caps"? Some magnetic/metallic pieces that you glue on top of the tiles/floor? Then attach some magnets to the walls?
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Post by belatucadras on Oct 18, 2013 0:32:18 GMT -5
My only concern with the white foam is the crumbling that tends to happen. Your are going to need to get multiple layers of paint built up to give it a shell. Or just not be concerned with the crumbling.
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Post by ohris on Oct 18, 2013 1:13:23 GMT -5
My only concern with the white foam is the crumbling that tends to happen. Your are going to need to get multiple layers of paint built up to give it a shell. Or just not be concerned with the crumbling. You mean use damage to the table and walls? I quess that is inevitable... I can always try to patch them up with more paint if it gets bad. I quess I could coat the table with varnish but Il try without first.
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Post by tauster on Oct 18, 2013 2:08:24 GMT -5
I solved the magnet question for my crafted stuff the following way: I cut these twist-off caps with a strong but old pair of scissors in little pieces (approx. 10x5 mm and some 5x5 mm), which I glue with whiteglue on my tiles, wherever I want them. For large general tiles like for example a 15 x 30 cm piece of rocky terrain (little rock chips glued to the cardboard), I sprinkle about a dozen metal chips in. If I would want to secure a wall like you do, I'd glue some metal scraps on the side of the cardboard piece in a row. I paint everything up so that the metal bits are camouflaged by the paint, but still usable. Then I either glue little neodym magnets to the pieces that I want to add to the tiles later (dungeon decoration like mushrooms, trees, tentacles, flames or whatever). The main advantages are: - I can use dungeon decoration and the tiles more flexible and in combination with other tiles - easier storage (deco goes in a box, tiles remain flat and can be stacked One variant: Don't glue a neodym magnet on, neither on the tile nor on the decoration piece - instead glue a metal scrap on both of them and keep your magnets separate. Advantage: you will need far fewer magnets in the long run, plus you don't have to care for magnet polarity. Hope that helps! I dont quite understand what you mean. "twist-off caps"? Some magnetic/metallic pieces that you glue on top of the tiles/floor? Then attach some magnets to the walls? re. twist-off caps: I'm not sure this is the correct english name, just what my translator gave me... if you do a google picture search, this is the stuff that I mean. They come on glasses in all sizes, just browse your local supermarket. For the purpose of cutting them into pieces, the bigger the cap is, the better for you because you'll have less scrap from the round and curled edge. This is what I end up with. As you can see, I also use other sources of metal, like broken blade pieces from xcacto knifes. I then glue the metal bits on my terrain pieces and paint them over like the rest of the tiles, which camouflages them. I used to glue small (5x5 mm with 2mm thickness) neodym magnets to the bases of my 'dungeon decoration' pieces like these toadstools. I now can use the toadstools on all kinds of different terrain pieces like these small discs I intend to use as terrain markers. If you look carefully, you can still see scrap metal bits from the twist-off caps on the tile, but when used in play, you and the players will (hopefully!) easily overlook them. The other variant I mentioned in my last paragraph is a bit different because I don't glue magnets to the bases anymore; instead I glue on the same metal scraps on them that I glue to the tiles. Of course metal on metal does not stick, but if you put a magnet between them, they do. The advantage is that you need far less magnets that way because they are not glued down to any piece.
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Post by ohris on Oct 18, 2013 2:51:32 GMT -5
I dont quite understand what you mean. "twist-off caps"? Some magnetic/metallic pieces that you glue on top of the tiles/floor? Then attach some magnets to the walls? re. twist-off caps: I'm not sure this is the correct english name, just what my translator gave me... if you do a google picture search, this is the stuff that I mean. They come on glasses in all sizes, just browse your local supermarket. For the purpose of cutting them into pieces, the bigger the cap is, the better for you because you'll have less scrap from the round and curled edge. This is what I end up with. As you can see, I also use other sources of metal, like broken blade pieces from xcacto knifes. I then glue the metal bits on my terrain pieces and paint them over like the rest of the tiles, which camouflages them. I used to glue small (5x5 mm with 2mm thickness) neodym magnets to the bases of my 'dungeon decoration' pieces like these toadstools. I now can use the toadstools on all kinds of different terrain pieces like these small discs I intend to use as terrain markers. If you look carefully, you can still see scrap metal bits from the twist-off caps on the tile, but when used in play, you and the players will (hopefully!) easily overlook them. The other variant I mentioned in my last paragraph is a bit different because I don't glue magnets to the bases anymore; instead I glue on the same metal scraps on them that I glue to the tiles. Of course metal on metal does not stick, but if you put a magnet between them, they do. The advantage is that you need far less magnets that way because they are not glued down to any piece. I see now... But if I understand correctly I would have to make a LOT of metal squares and glue them on my board. Then I would also glue metal sheets at the bottom of my wall pieces and use magnets in between to make them stick... That would work but man thats a lot of cutting metal and glueing them to the board.
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Post by tauster on Oct 18, 2013 3:14:11 GMT -5
I see now... But if I understand correctly I would have to make a LOT of metal squares and glue them on my board. Then I would also glue metal sheets at the bottom of my wall pieces and use magnets in between to make them stick... That would work but man thats a lot of cutting metal and glueing them to the board. The cutting was done very quickly; what required the most time was cutting off the round edge of the cap. Cutting one large cap (approx. 10 cm diameter) in little scraps took about 1 to 2 minutes. If you want to secure your walls, you can use longer strips instead of small squares, which saves you some of the cutting. Use strong but old scissors, as cutting metal will kill their sharpness. Use a very strong glue - neodym magnets are very strong and might ripp off the metal from your board & tiles. I don't think this will take much time, at least not when I did it. You can buy neodym magnets in all shapes and sizes on ebay (or elsewhere). Compared to a few years ago they are almost dirt cheap now. I bought 200 square ones (5x5x2 mm) for 15 euro, shipping cost already included, by end of August. I have used about 80 since then, but I have crafted very much, and mostly I glued the magnets on, since the idea of glueing metal scraps on both tile and decoration occured to me only a while ago. The only thing I don't like is that their production causes very much environmental damage, something I normally try to avoid as much as I can...
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Post by thedmg on Oct 18, 2013 8:04:56 GMT -5
The "theatre of the mind crowd" think we're all loonies... to them I say merely... BRAINS!
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Post by tauster on Oct 18, 2013 10:31:26 GMT -5
The "theatre of the mind crowd" think we're all loonies... to them I say merely... BRAINS! Brains? Been there, done that: I found a great brain ice cube tray. At first I used it only for its original purpose*, but then I realized, that... well... * i.e. making some superbly creepy ice brains. It works best if you freeze cherry juice and then drop the bloodred brain in orange juice: The juice freezes in the dints, making it look like... something very nasty. My friends shuddered!
...it would make a great addition to my miniature zoo. So I bought another one and use it as a mould... The brains in the picture are about the height of an average miniature, so if you have an illithid elder brain (...or a dozen of them... *shudder*) in your campaign, they are just perfect. p.s.: sorry for derailing the thread - back to topic please!
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Post by skunkape on Oct 18, 2013 12:39:18 GMT -5
p.s.: sorry for derailing the thread - back to topic please! Those look sooooo cooooolll! Got to see if I can find one of those trays!
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